Format: Audio (mp3 and m4b audiobook included)
Running time: 3 hours 7 minutes

Paul Smith talks to Ken Wilber about his latest book Integral Christianity: The Spirit's Call to Evolve, laying the groundwork for a truly integral approach to Christianity that identifies, honors, and includes the very best of all previous interpretations of the Gospel while clearing the space for radically new understandings, expressions, and experiences of Christianity to emerge. Listen as Paul and Ken discuss how each of the eight major elements of Christian thought (the Bible, God, Jesus, Sin and Salvation, Heaven and Hell, the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Mystical) are interpreted very differently from each of these major stages of consciousness.

Whether you are a long-time practicing Christian who is trying to revitalize your spiritual path, a "recovering Christian" trying to make amends with the tradition of your childhood, or a non-Christian who is simply trying to better understand the Christian tradition and the social and cultural impact it continues to have upon our world, there is no better place to start than this extraordinary and foundational conversation.

Bonus: Ken Wilber's Spiritual Practice
Running time: 13 minutes

For someone who likes to talk so much about spirituality, we don't get to hear about Ken Wilber's personal spiritual life very often. In this extraordinary clip, Ken offers an intimate recounting of his own subtle state experiences and spiritual practices, past and present, offering us a unique insight into Ken's ongoing spiritual life.

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